I've been toying with the idea of using the new Warhammer 40,000: Apocalypse rules with my "Epic Scale" 40K stuff. Recently I was looking at what I had and took stock and tried to form them into detachments to see how big of a game (in terms of number of units and power level - the minis are really very small...) I could put on the table and what, if anything I'd need to paint to play reasonable sized battle. I found for both Eldar and Space Marines I had in the neighbourhood of 300-400 Power Level. I may paint up a few more items for both forces before I actually get these on the table... I'm shooting for about 400 Power Level on each side.
To start with... The Eldar
ASURYANI FORCE for EPIC APOCALYPSE

The entire force (so far!). This comes to about 400 Power Level
These were previously organized for Future War Commander - where an element is an element and the number of figures on each stand wasn't really important, so I wasn't really fussed about having the correct number of itty-bitty warriors on each stand. Consequently, a number of these elements have less than the basic number of models that should be on a stand - in these cases I assume that it represents the basic/minimum number that would be in a squad - for example, you can field Warp Spiders in squads of five or ten, my stands have only three on each of them (because I only had ten of them and I wanted more than just two squads and needed something I could use as a CO/HQ element - so I did three stands of three plus a smaller stand of just one - which would represent the HQ element.
Supreme Command Detachment

Headquarters
Farseer (1) - 4PL
Farseer (1) - 4PL
Farseer (1) - 4PL
Lord of War
WraithKnight (1) - 21 PL
Total: 33 Power Level
Outrider Detachment

Headquarters
Warlock (1) on Skyrunner 6PL
Fast Attack
4x Windriders(3) @ 5PL = 20PL
2x Vypers (2) @10PL = 20 PL
Total: 46 Power Level
Spearhead Detachment #1

Headquarters
Warlock (1) on Skyrunner 6PL
Heavy Support
4x Falcon Grav Tank (1) @10 - 40 PL
Total: 46 Power Level
Spearhead Detachment #2

Headquarters
Warlock (1) on Skyrunner 6PL
Heavy Support
4x Falcon Grav Tank (1)@10 - 40 PL
Total: 46 Power Level
Spearhead Detachment #3

Headquarters
Warlock (1) on Skyrunner 6PL
Heavy Support
4x Falcon Grav Tank (1)@10 - 40 PL
Total: 46 Power Level
Eventually all these "spearhead" detachements above will be converted to "Battalion" detachments as I finish up some Dire Avenger elements that will be able to ride around in them, making them more of a mechanized assault force than a fast, light tank force. Much like these two Vanguard Detachments below with other Aspect Warriors (Fire Dragons and Striking Scorepions):
Vanguard Detachment #1

Headquarters
Warlock (1) on Skyrunner 6PL
Elite
4x Fire Dragon (5) @5 = 20 PL
Heavy Support
4x Falcon Grav Tank (1)@10 = 40PL
Total: 66 Power Level
Vanguard Detachment #2

Headquarters
Warlock (1) on Skyrunner 6PL
Elite
6x Striking Scorpions @7 = 42 PL
Heavy Support
4x Falcon Grav Tank (1) @10 = 40PL
Total: 88 Power Level
Outrider Detachment #2

Headquarters
Autarch with Warpjump Generator 7PL
Fast Attack
3x Warp Spiders(5) @7 =21 PL
Total: 28 Power Level
With all of these I am at 399 Power Level...
I do have one more detachment I could possibly add...
Allied Harlequin Battalion Detachment?

Headquarters
1x Troupe Master (1) - 4PL (not shown)
Troops
3x harlequin Troupe (5) = 15 PL
Fast Attack
Void Weaver (1) - 9PL
(Not shown, but painted - It's actually just an Eldar Vyper model all painted up in motley)
Total: 28 Power LeveL
I'm not sure about using all these Warlock on Skyrunner Jetbikes as Detachment Commanders... but it's what I got. I do have a few other command stands that could be warlocks on foot or Autarchs. They could easily be mounted up in a spare Falcon... I guess we'll see about how well they do roaring around on Jet bikes and how easily they are picked off!
I do have loads more to paint - THREE Phantom titans! Loads more Falcon tanks, piles and piles of Guardian Defenders, Support Weapons, a couple of Revenant Titans (unfortunately later models - that don't really match the ones that I have for regular scale 40k...), more aspect warriors (Swooping Hawks, Howling Banshees, Dire Avengers, etc). I also have one old tempest heavy grab tank - and a second that's missing its turret (if anyone out there HAS a spare Tempest Turret...?)
Haven't costed it all out, but considering the Phantom Titans are all 130+ EACH - I could easily have 1000 Power Level of forces, should they ever all get painted!!!
I also have loads of Marines, and Imperial Guard, and Squats (which, I guess, could be fielded as MORE Guard), a pile of Chaos and Ork stuff as well...
Coming Soon to Tim's Miniature Wargaming Blog:
later this weekend there should be a game-a-day update for the third week of September and hopefully some Necromunda game reports!
Also I'll probably do a post about the Epic Space Marines for Apocalypse, at some point in the not-too-distant future...
No basic 'guardian' units as p.b.i? Or Wraithguard?
ReplyDeleteOh, I have loads and loads of Guardians to paint up at some point - and a few elements of Wraith Guard and a few Wraithlords. Someday...
DeleteClever stuff Tim - well done.
ReplyDeleteWell, we'll see if it actually works in the game... I have a feeling all those Warlocks on Jetbikes are going to be primary targets for all shooting and just bet blasted out of the sky...
DeleteJust posted a breakdown of the Marine force...
http://saskminigamer.blogspot.com/2019/09/epic-space-marines-for-apocalypse.html